Debatemne: Thailand Portalen (version 2004) :: Selvmord

Oprettet af uan d. 05/02-2010 20:45
#1

Jo de flyver jo lidt hen over styret...LOL LOL

nej, det var bare for at vise, at der kan findes lidt statistik.. Men kunne godt tænke mig at se et officielt tal..

Oprettet af LBH d. 06/02-2010 04:09
#2

Jeg har aldrig oplevet noget dårligt i Pattaya. Har samlet været der i knapt 6 måneder. Var i Phuket 14 dage og der havde jeg hele 2 grimme episoder.
Hvad er forskellen på om du samler en pige op fra Walking street eller soi 7?? og er der forskel på de piger der arbejder på en dansk bar frem for en fra enhver anden bar i Pattaya??
Med almindelig sund fornuft kommer man langt. Skal der falde et par åd må det være at huske hvilken bar hun kom fra og bor du på hotel så sørg lige for at hun aflevære hendes id inden i går op.
Lars

Oprettet af LBH d. 06/02-2010 04:28
#3

Efter min kærestes udsagn dør de fleste udlændinge af hjertestop som følge af nattens anstrengelser. Om det passer skal jeg ikke kunne sige, men hun har boet der i 7 år.
Pigerne har for meget power siger hun og hun mener desuden at det må være en lykkelig ende på livet..Grin

Endnu et godt råd.... Pas på blodtrykket!

Oprettet af BJ d. 06/02-2010 08:29
#4

Jeg har meget ofte brugt en MC-TAXA i Pattaya, og er da også blevet advaret mod dem.
Men der er sgu aldrig sket mig noget endu! 7.9.13?
MVH.BJ

Oprettet af b_j3ns3n d. 06/02-2010 10:36
#5

LBH skrev:
Efter min kærestes udsagn dør de fleste udlændinge af hjertestop som følge af nattens anstrengelser. Om det passer skal jeg ikke kunne sige, men hun har boet der i 7 år.
Pigerne har for meget power siger hun og hun mener desuden at det må være en lykkelig ende på livet..Grin

Endnu et godt råd.... Pas på blodtrykket!


tror du ikke det er alt det de æder viagra der gør et indhug i befolkningen

Oprettet af b_j3ns3n d. 06/02-2010 10:41
#6

LBH skrev:
Jeg har aldrig oplevet noget dårligt i Pattaya.


jeg har heller ikke oplevet noget i patty, som gør at jeg er bange, for at være der. for mig er det ikke meget være end så mange andre storbyer.
jeg gider bare ikke se nyhederne i tv, fordi der er så meget vold, død og andet møg, og det er ikke noget jeg gider hører eller se på, i min ferie

Oprettet af jesperfrb d. 06/02-2010 16:37
#7

Har været mange gange i Jomtien/Pattaya, har aldrig oplevet noget der gjorde mig nervøs for at være der! Brug fornuften, så kommer man langt!Bla bla bla

Oprettet af thorma d. 08/02-2010 17:32
#8

Har aldrig været i pattaya og har lovet mig selv aldrig at gøre det, mest af alt fordi jeg ikke bryder mig om det byen står for (uanset om det så er et godt sted eller ej).

Men læste om de her selvmord tidligere, hvor der var mange der var rimlig mærkelige, men det skulle eftersigende være meget normalt at folk tager biletten det sted.

De tager derned med deres sidste penge fra et liv i ruiner, brænder det hele af indtil de ikke har flere penge med druk & kvinder og lever livet så lang tid som muligt.

Når det er slut, og det går op for dem at de skal tilbage til virkeligheden så vælger de at tage biletten.

Det synes jeg virker som en udmærket plausibel forklaring, hvis nu jeg skulle begå selvmord, så var det egentlig ikke en dårlig ånd at gøre det i, nyde livet i fulde drag det sidste stykke tid, og så gøre en ende på det....

Især set i lyset af jeg fandeme næsten har lyst til at tage billetten når jeg skal på flyveren hjem, og det er bare når jeg skal sige farvel til bangkok lufthavn Smile

Redigeret af thorma d. 08/02-2010 17:36

Oprettet af vandango d. 08/02-2010 17:53
#9

Der er ikke noget galt med Pattaya, men de svagelige skravl tager dertil for at nyde de sidste dage af deres liv. De vil ikke ende deres sidste dage på et koldt hospital.

Oprettet af b_j3ns3n d. 08/02-2010 19:15
#10

vandango skrev:
Der er ikke noget galt med Pattaya, men de svagelige skravl tager dertil for at nyde de sidste dage af deres liv. De vil ikke ende deres sidste dage på et koldt hospital.


det kan man jo godt forstå.. måske ikke så fedt for familien, men det gir nu alligevel mening, at nyde den sidste tid man har Dead

Redigeret af b_j3ns3n d. 08/02-2010 19:16

Oprettet af hanspeter d. 08/02-2010 21:31
#11

igen igen, denne gang er det dog ikke flyvende faranger, men igen en som tog en plastikpose over hovedet, inden han hængte sig selv, måske. Det er ved at være en trend, for det er da utroligt så mange som begår selvmord på den måde. Er Pattaya virkelig så slem, at selvmord er den eneste løsning for så mange? Det kunne jo også være mord:
http://www.pattay...tien-home/

"On Sunday Night, Police Lieutenant Colonel Tailert from Dongtan Police Sub-Station, located on Jomtien Beach, was called to a house in Jomtien which was known to be rented by Mr. Ernst-Joachim Otto Pape aged 60 from Germany by the mans adopted son, Khun Manat aged 23 who discovered the body of Mr. Pape in the living room. He was hanging from a steel door frame. A plastic bag was placed over his head and tied tightly around his neck. Due to the suspicious circumstances, a forensic doctor was called to the scene and confirmed he had been dead for about 2 days. It was known that Mr. Pape was the part-owner of the Marina Inn Plaza Hotel located in Soi Yensabai, South Pattaya, however financial problems resulted in him declaring bankruptcy and the hotel was handed over to the other partner. Police have recorded the death as suspicious and the forensic doctor confirms that foul play may be involved, however he did state that the victim could have placed the bag over his head, seconds before hanging himself. The investigation continues."

Redigeret af hanspeter d. 08/02-2010 21:33

Oprettet af Fido d. 08/02-2010 23:17
#12

Dette her er en af de mere eksotiske sager, selv om det ikke lige er fra Pattaya. Først udelukker politiet at der er tale om selvmord - hvad man vel egentlig godt kan forstå:


http://www.pattay...icle=18713


Mr. Wisoot Sookkasem, a 52 year old rubber tapper discovered a horrific scene whilst out in a rubber plantation in Huay Yai during the morning of the 21st August. There amongst the trees he found the scattered remains of a man, later identified from a driving license as Mr. Uwe Keienburg. The 45 year old German had been blown apart by military grade explosives, which had been strapped to his body and detonated from a remote control. He immediately contacted the police who on arrival with the Sawang Boriboon medics set up a murder inquiry as they do not believe it was suicide. Mr. Keienburg was an engineer working for a real estate company in Bangkok. Nearby a BMW car was found, which on investigation belonged to the victim. On contacting his wife, Mrs. Araya Keienburg, stated that her husband had recently had death threats as he was having tribulations with a group of foreign estate agents. A full investigation is under way and the German Embassy is assisting in the case.

Men senere ændrer politiet mening, og det kan der jo være mange grunde til Wink

Pattaya, August 22 [PATTAYA ONE NEWS] : We have an update now on a story we featured on Friday relating to the death of a German Engineer at a plantation in Huoy Yai Municipality. On Friday Afternoon, Forensic Officers from Chonburi Provincial Police led by Police Major General Niwat, the Deputy Commander of Police Region 2 attended the scene and undertook a detailed inspection of the scene of the explosion and the BMW 523i parked close-by which is owned by Khun Arayar aged 40 the wife of the victim, Mr. Uwe Keienburg aged 44 from Germany. Following their inspection they reported their findings to the local press and confirmed that there was no evidence of C4 Explosives being used, however a pin belonging to an M33 Hand Grenade was found close to the body and evidence of a third party being present at the time of the explosion could not be found. Moving on to the car, it had been recently cleaned and nothing untoward was found inside and there was no evidence that anyone else was inside the car apart from Mr. Keienburg who is believed to have driven to the location alone. Inside the car was a Toll Booth ticket from Burapa Whithi which is a section of elevated highway running from Bangkok to Chonburi. Checks on the ticket indicated the car passed through the booth at 10.43am on Friday, suggesting a direct trip from Bangkok to the location of his death. A further witness has also come forward to confirm the BMW Car arrived at the location alone.
Moving on to the victim’s wife, Khun Arayar, who travelled down from Bangkok to speak with Police on Friday Night, she explained that her Husband was attempting to raise money to purchase Construction Machinery from USA and intended to use a piece of land owned by the Mother of his Wife as collateral but the loan was not approved which angered Mr. Keienburg. Both intended to start an export business involving colleagues in Malaysia. There was also an indication of business dealing with a company in India who are thought to have owed Mr. Keienburg some money. After the loan had been declined Mr. Keienburg became depressed and according to his Wife, he had told her that his life was not going well and his luck had run out.
Police now suspect the likely cause of death was a suicide; however murder has not been entirely ruled out for now. We will of course bring any further updates to you as we receive them.

Oprettet af hanspeter d. 08/02-2010 23:46
#13

"Moving on to the victim’s wife, Khun Arayar, who travelled down from Bangkok to speak with Police on Friday Night, she explained that her Husband was attempting to raise money to purchase Construction Machinery from USA and intended to use a piece of land owned by the Mother of his Wife as collateral but the loan was not approved which angered Mr. Keienburg. Both intended to start an export business involving colleagues in Malaysia. There was also an indication of business dealing with a company in India who are thought to have owed Mr. Keienburg some money. After the loan had been declined Mr. Keienburg became depressed and according to his Wife, he had told her that his life was not going well and his luck had run out.
Police now suspect the likely cause of death was a suicide; however murder has not been entirely ruled out for now. We will of course bring any further updates to you as we receive them."

hmm penge, forretning, broke og selvmord på den mest fantsatiske måde, kan man se en tendens?Tuttelu Tralla Det kan jo også det er det nemmeste for thaipolicen at arkivere sagerne som selvmord.

Redigeret af hanspeter d. 08/02-2010 23:48

Oprettet af Allan73 d. 14/02-2010 12:19
#14

Vandre historie?

En af de første gange jeg var i Thailand var der en fastboende Dansker der fortalte at:
Han havde mødt nogle thailændere der gik rundt og viste klip fra en engelsk avis, klippet omhandlede en Englænder der var sprunget ud fra 7 etage i London.
Englænderen skulle have skåret underlivet op på en barpige i Pattaya og taget hjem inden de kunne få fat på ham.

Senere i samtalen tilføjet at politiet (i Thailand) ofte var klar over hvis "et selvmord" i virkeligheden var en straf for dårlig behandling af de arbejdende piger og i så tilfælde ikke ledte synderligt efter gerningsmændende.

Historien er genfortalt som jeg husker den og er muligvis ikke 100% korrekt.

Nu, uden indtagelse af alkohol og med flere års erfaring fra Thailand har jeg selv svært ved at tro på ovenstående.
Det ville kræve en del penge under bordet til BIB og løn til gerningsmændene. Og hvem ville betale det for en barpige? Mama San?

Har desværre ingen statistikker på hånden.