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Ombudsmen urge draconian new law

BANGKOK: -- Thai ombudsmen is drafting a carrot-and-stick law to protect Thai lands from illegal foreign nominee ownership, while developers and consultants suggest more legal transparency, a longer leasehold period and higher foreigner property taxes to prevent nominees.

Ombudsman Siracha Charoenpanij said the new law would comprise punishment for companies offering advice to foreigners on how to hold Thai property by disguising their legal transaction. This would include law firms and consultants.

The existing law enforced by the Lands Department requires foreigners found holding Thai property to transfer the plot to someone else or sell it within 180 days.

"The new law includes a reward to anyone providing information about foreigners owning land through nominees. They will get 20% of the market price of that piece of land as a reward after the plot is sold," he said at a seminar on foreign property ownership yesterday held by the Thai Appraisal Foundation.

Deportation

The new law would also deport foreigners found guilty of holding land plots in Thailand illegally.

Ombudsmen will submit the draft to parliament this year, and Mr Siracha thinks there is backing for the bill.

"Anyone related to the property business may be unhappy with this bill as it will make the market rigid. But this law can help protect the land for the next generation of Thais," he said.

Will there be any land left for our Thai children?

He pointed to a new scheme where foreigners disguise their ownership similar to multi-level marketing, where they are buying shares of an agricultural company that grows rice on large plots in the northeast.

"I've heard there was a broker buying land plots throughout a tambon in Surin to cultivate Hom Mali rice," he said. "If such an act is not prevented, will there be any land left for our children?"

Suphin Mechuchep, managing director of property consultant Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) (Thailand), said any new law should not weaken Thailand's competitiveness. Yet too free a market would lead to a bubble, so balance is needed, she added.

"We should have transparency if we want foreigners to comply," she said.

She suggested clarity in regulations so foreigners could estimate their investment. Longer leasehold periods such as 50 or 90 years would lower their risk from the current 30 years, she added.

Higher tax on foreigner property transactions

When laws are clarified, she accepted Thailand may charge higher taxes on foreigner property transactions than on those of Thais.

Atip Bijanonda, president of the construction and real estate business department of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, agreed there needs to be balance while still welcoming foreign investment.

He suggested the government set guidelines for foreigners, forbidding their purchase of land banks, farm land, property in border areas, and locations related to the country's security. Foreigners are permitted to buy land in industrial estates because they generate income and employment. Residential units near industrial estates are allowed for foreign investors or executives working there to bring their compatriots to visit Thailand.

-- BKK Post 2012-06-29
Source: http://www.bangko...an-new-law

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det har da ikke noget med thai kvinder at gøre ?

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Nej det er mere med os Falanger og vores selskaber.......
Jeg kan heller ikke lige se sammenhænget til "vores" Thai koner

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Det samme har været på tapetet tidligere.
Det er de færreste af vore Thaikoner som ville have været istand til at erhverve hus og grund med egne midler eller legalt indtjente penge. Derfor er hun nominee eller stråmand for udlændingen, som qua ægteskabet er kriminel og det bliver konen så pludseligt også . Ret mig hvis jeg har misforstået noget.
Dette forslag er som så meget andet i LOS helt ubegribeligt og sparker nogle af os videre til Myanmar, hvor vi snart kan eje 100 %

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Som Boes har allerede forklaret , meget faa "thai koner" ville have raad til selv at koebe eller bygge et 2-250m2 hus i Isaan og maaske med swimmingpool ovenikoebet.


Men det er desvaere den "noegen og barske" realitetet. En "spade" kan ogsaa kaldes en skovl, men det ville stadigt vaere en spade. De er ikke den primaert maal for loven, men det ville vaere en "sidegevinst".



a) Lad os se fremtiden an for det er "ny suppe paa gamle ben".
b ) Maaske, men hvor laenge ?

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Jeg udlægger godt nok det Boes skriver noget anderledes... jeg ser det som at man vil dem til livs, der laver et selskab for at erhverve et hus + dem der leaser af konen og ikke i de tilfælde hvor en thai kvinde køber et hus/land/forretning etc. Hvordan vil det Thailandske statsvæsen kunne bevise hvordan en udvandret thai er kommet til sine penge ? Det er jo ikke ulovligt at være gift med en farang... endnu...
Hvis ovennævnte skulle være gældende, må ingen thai jo være gift med en udlænding og samtidig eje noget..... det holder simpelthen ikke......

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Præcis Pete

Det er som altid store armbevægelser uden eftertanke.
Uden at have nogle sikre referencer handler det vist om Japanske, Kinesiske, Indiske, Saudi Arabiske interesser. Man lejer landbrugsjorden helt legalt for at dyrke ris og siden exportere til hjemlandet for at sikre den egne befolkning .
Det er jo fuldt tilladt , så som nam nah.
Men hvis man læser texten, kan den appliceres på alle falanger...

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altid rart at være lidt enige sådan en grå fredag ! God weekend !!!

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Kulsort her med næsten full moon og sølle 28 grader. Fuld sol hele dagen dog..

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her er det dansk sommer = skybrud i morges - nu er det gråt & lummert....19 grader.... suk vil gerne bytte med LOS

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^^

Er det mon nu p.g.a. solen at << Vores koner skal ikke kunne eje land mere >>



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Ja tak.

Hvad tro i lige sker når de lokale opdager at de ved at stikke naboen med det fine hus, får en dusør på 20% af markeds prisen.

"The new law includes a reward to anyone providing information about foreigners owning land through nominees. They will get 20% of the market price of that piece of land as a reward after the plot is sold," he said at a seminar on foreign property ownership yesterday held by the Thai Appraisal Foundation.

Jeg tror nu mest det handler om større landstykker i Th, men bare vent og se.

Mr Tirak

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Tirak
Det tror jeg også . Men desværre kan teksten bøjes så den paseer også til den lille familie....

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lyder sygt. men er der nogen der faktisk ved mere end et indlæg i en avis?

det vil være sygt hvis alle huskøb fra thai der er gift med en farang ligepludselig blev nominee og naboerne ville have penge.

de er røvligeglade i thailand med hvad de skal gøre bare for at få lidt penge til lawkaw

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Ifølge artiklen er det et Draft, som skal forelægges for parlamentet og godkendes inden det træder ikraft..

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Det er stadigvæk foreigners owning land der skrives om. Altså ikke Thailandske statsborger....

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Foreigners kan IKKE eje land i Thai.
Man er ude efter foreigners som disponerer over land via en nominee eller stråmand

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Her er mere fra samme skuffe

Commerce Ministry to inspect foreign shareholding in Thailand later in August

BANGKOK, 19 July 2012 (NNT) – The Commerce Ministry is set to launch an inspection on foreign shareholding in the country within a month’s time.

The Department of Business Development Director-General Banyong Limprayoonwong said that the Commerce Ministry has been drafting a set of regulations on the management and the inspection of foreign shareholding in Thai companies, in a bid to more strongly enforce the Alien Business Law of Thailand.

Mr. Banyong conceded that the Ministry’s probe into suspicious foreign shareholdings has been limited and lacked depth.

Such flaws have made it less effective to take legal actions against those who have broken the laws, said the Department of Business Development Director-General.

He added that the Department is set to make the term “Nominee” more definite and clarified, while looking more thoroughly at the amount of shares held, the influence of foreign shareholders and other policies of the company.

According to Mr. Banyong, there are more than 27,000 companies with foreign shareholdings, all of which will be scrutinized by the Department of Business Development.

He stated that any company found to be in violation of the laws will face further investigation by the Department of Special Investigation.


-- NNT 2012-07-19

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Er du ikke ved at køre dit eget indlæg lidt af sporet?
I din overskrift skulle det handle om "Nu skal vore koner ikke kunne eje land"

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Nej du, sletikke..
Der findes tusindvis af proforma aktieselskaber, som kun er oprettede for at kunne eje land. Typisk ejer konen/karesten og nogle andre Thaier 51 % af aktierne mens falangen har 49 %. Proforma har de sa siden ca. 2004 varet nodt til at have 4 thaier ansatte. Nu vil myndighederne se at disse a/s faktisk er aktive forretninger og har ikke bare udgifter men ogsaa indkomster...OG betaler skat.
Altså identisk situation med de tidligere indlæg